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should an artist fear running out of ideas?

or is it the fear of others taking the ideas before a given idea has had time to truly birth itself and be imprinted by the originator?

but what if you have more than your fair share of ideas? what then?

and what if two similar people, totally unbeknownest to each other, generate a similar idea at the same time?

why?

what does it mean?

is it better to be known as the originator, or the perfector? why not both?

Date: 2004-02-24 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicanerys-muse.livejournal.com
A lot of things (to me at least) contribute to the birth of an Idea.
I don't run out of them perce, but I know I do Have my dry spells.
That just happens.

As for people coming up with the same concept at the same time.. well that is bound to happen. So many people in this world, and I am sure outside influances help that as well.

Date: 2004-02-24 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/stealingtime_/
good words, now you got me thinking >>wheels turn<<

i miss you, we need to get together soon and start seeing one another
i live in mt.view these days, like 10 minutes from where the Eye used to be off Castro.

also wondering if you where still willing to help me redesign the front page of my site, don't know if you have the time for such but i do right now while i am out of a day job.

>>hugs<<

Date: 2004-02-24 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meddevi.livejournal.com
I have a feeling the next 4 weeks will be absolute chaos, but what I recommend is writing down your ideas, selecting images, and I can put something together in a spare evening hour :)

Date: 2004-03-01 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/stealingtime_/
hmm, maybe we can get together on a tues. eve which are usually the best night for me, in the meantime i'll draw down a sketch of my ideas for the main page

miss you :)

Date: 2004-02-24 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycen.livejournal.com
Fear inhibits creativity, it... spearheads inhibition, in fact, in countless ways.

Let go and create :)



Date: 2004-02-24 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunesse.livejournal.com
why get hung on up on that stuff. If you are the originator, then you are. If someone else is too, then they are, too. Just be the best you can at everything you do, and don't bother with the "i thought of it first, you thought of it first" stuff. Irrelevant, unless you are talking something copyrighted, outright protected and stolen, and someone else is making a profit off it, not you, when they took it from you.

ah, that's the thing

Date: 2004-02-24 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meddevi.livejournal.com
the whole stolen/copyright/profit thing...I have friends who have been through hell and back over this...it's easy to advise them to move forward, continue creating, and just be the step ahead, since they are the creative source of their designs. But I'm wandering very shortly down a similar path, and that's where you wonder how much you can follow your own advice, grin and bear it. Then again, it's not so much the stealing of designs, it's the blatant lying and backstabbing about it that certain people exhibit that truly anger me, whether it's my design or a friend's.

beautiful

Date: 2004-02-24 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meddevi.livejournal.com
simple, perfect, thank you :)

Re: beautiful

Date: 2004-02-24 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycen.livejournal.com
You're very welcome! I hope all goes well for you. :)

Re: beautiful

Date: 2004-02-24 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meddevi.livejournal.com
and by the way, now that I've almost gotten my brain back, thanks for including me on the 13th! I really appreciate it, and hope the crowd enjoyed it, in their own way :)

Re: beautiful

Date: 2004-02-24 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycen.livejournal.com
Definitely they did!

If you're into it, we'd love to have you back any time!

Date: 2004-02-24 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisyael.livejournal.com
I am a post-modernist when it comes to art, in many ways. I believe that it does not matter whether I "create" or whether I "borrow" as long as in the mashing of the idea, it becomes my own.

It is better to be known as the perfector (or the originator, or both. Or neither, as long as you are recognized for what you are contributing). This is a truly postmodernist answer, I think:)

As an example, take Gus Van Sant's remake of Psycho (I haven't seen either, just using it as an example). It was a shot-for-shot remake. But my guess is the two movies probably still have a different sensibility/ theme/ vision. I don't think you wouldn't know watching them which one was which. And I don't know if the remake is worthwhile, but maybe it is -- maybe the actors are better, or something.

I actually thought it was an interesting idea for GVS to make that remake (even though I wasn't interested in watching either version, as I get nightmares too easily). I applauded his creativity in thinking of doing it shot for shot.

So, that's an extreme post-modernist example. The more mainstream example would be Tarentino's new movie, Kill Bill, which has homage all throughout -- a pasiche, if you will. But the idea is Tarentino's. Lots of examples of this abound at every level, and I would say dance comes closest to this: when I use certain movements, they were taught/ performed first by X and I am doing an homage of a sort. I also use movements I have (maybe) come up with on my own, and those are the part that is original.

(The question of originality is complicated in a post-modernist world. It is hard to concieve that a movement I can think of, or a combination of words I put together would in fact never have been danced/ thought of before. And in fact, I may be unconciously copying someone I do not conciously remember.)

Egads, can you tell I am a true theorist:)

Oh -- one last thought (I could go on more, but won't): in my life, at least, there's a bit of a difference between my views on originality and my different arts. In terms of poetry, I am a bit more of a modernist, with some post-modern tendencies. Acting doesn't even have the question attached to it, since I can't separate out the various streams of originality/ homage. It is purely post-modern. All I am doing is going on instinct. Dancing is a mixture, leaning more towards post-modernism, since I want to bring out my individuality and showcase it, whereas for acting, I am submerging my individuality into the character.

Does that make sense?

heh...

Date: 2004-02-24 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meddevi.livejournal.com
I think you lost me after "post-modernist" ;P..I think it's programmed in my head from RISD to be linked with "bauhaus" and "cantalever", which causes an immediate shut down of brain activity.

But thanks :)

Re: heh...

Date: 2004-02-24 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisyael.livejournal.com
I'm thinking of writing "The Dummy's Guide to Postmodernism or: Why Everyone Who Likes the Simpsons is a Postmodernist!"

Post-modernism is really misunderstood, yo! :( And yet, in practice, it is pretty much the going thing... odd, huh?

Re: heh...

Date: 2004-02-24 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meddevi.livejournal.com
cool! is there another name for postmodernism? ;)

Re: heh...

Date: 2004-02-25 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisyael.livejournal.com
Hmmm... not that I can think of. There were some other isms inbetween modernism and post-modernism, though. Deconsructionism springs to mind, as does post-deconstructionsim.

theory is crazy, eh?

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